Interview With Martha Graham, Modern Dance Pioneer

Interview With Martha Graham



Rachel (interviewer): Hello, Martha. Today we are going to be interviewing you about your life as a dancer and choreographer. Are you ready?



Martha (interviewee): Yes, let’s start.



Question 1
R: What was it like during the time and place you lived in?


M:
I was born on May 11, 1894 in Allegheny City, which later became a part of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. It was a very industrial city with many churches, social organizations, factories, commercial areas, and packing houses. It also had numerous job opportunities for German immigrants. My family eventually moved to Santa Barbara, California when I was fourteen. Whilst there, much renovation occurred at the Church, mostly in the sanctuary. I saw my very first dance performance at the Mason Opera House in Los Angeles, which is about 95 miles away from Santa Barbara. I moved to New York in 1925 to attend the Eastman School of Music, and that’s where I did a lot of my work.


There was a depression in the 1890s, and because of that immigration rose from 3.5 million to 9 million. Immigrants kept coming from Northern and Western Europe, but we started receiving immigrants from Eastern and Southern Europe, including Latin America and Canada. Immigration eventually decreased in 1914 because of the war, and later in the 1920s with its immigration restrictions. Speaking of the war, it was very hard for everyone around the world. World War I was the first global war in history and it put the central powers of Germany, the Ottoman Empire, and Austria-Hungary against the allied forces of France, Russia, Japan, Italy, Great Britain, and the United States. It finally ended on November 11, 1918, when I was 24 years old. That was a great day.


Question 2
R: Did anything happen in your childhood that influenced your interest in dance?


M:
    Like I said before, I saw my very first dance performance at the Mason Opera House in 1914. I saw Ruth St. Denis perform, and I was just so interested in the way that she moved. Modern dance was a style quite different from ballet, in fact, it pretty much broke the rules of it! My father was a doctor, and he and my mother did not approve of me becoming a dancer, so I joined the Cumnock School, which was a junior college.


My father died in 1914. Even though I know it’s mean to say, I felt free to study dancing and to pursue my dream. After I graduated from Cumnock, I began to study at the Denishawn School of Dancing and Related Arts in Los Angeles, which was founded by Ruth St. Denis and Ted Shawn. I had never had a dance lesson before in my life, and I was very nervous. But I was determined, and I guess I impressed Ted Shawn, because I ended up touring with his troupe in a production of “Xochit”. I stayed at the school until 1923, leaving for two years of solo work with the Greenwich Village Follies.


Question 3
R: Did you have any mentors that helped to utilize your talents and become the artist you are now?


M:
    I was very impressed by Ruth St. Denis. I was almost entranced by her, I just loved the way she could create such beautiful art with her body. However, my main teacher at the Denishawn School was Ted Shawn. Even though I couldn’t dance a single step at first, he recognized the potential I had, and became a mentor to me.


Shawn channeled the dramatic power out of my shy, young body. He was the one that guided me in the Aztec ballet “Xochitl”, which was a huge success. Many of my performances in vaudeville and concerts were successful as well. In 1922, I performed an Egyptian dance for a short silent film by Hugo Riesenfeld. I danced alongside Lillian Powell, and Shawn guided us both through the process. Even though I ended up rebelling against the eclecticism of the Denishawn school, I thoroughly enjoyed my time there. I wouldn’t be the dancer I am now without it.


Question 4
R: When you entered the dance world, was it much different from how it is now?


M:
    Ballet was very popular with the public. Before the turn of the century, modern dance was unheard of. Pioneers such as Isadora Duncan, Loie Fuller, and Ruth St. Denis helped to introduce this new style to the people. When I first joined the dancing world, modern dance was not as well developed as it is today. And if you were a modern dancer, that’s all you did. If you were a ballet dancer, you did ballet and no other styles.


In the 1920s and 1930s, myself and other artists such as Doris Humphrey and Mary Wigman essentially broke away from the traditional ways of ballet. We choreographed expressive movements that were more about human life, unlike most ballets. Eventually, some ballet choreographers took on that sense of realism and created amazing pieces of art with everyday themes. Now, modern dance has completely evolved and created even more styles from it.


Question 5
R: How did the major cultural, economic and political situations of your time influence your work?


M:
    I used many of the problems that were happening in the world at the time in my dance pieces. I found a way to take the pain, sadness, and anger of certain events and change it into something beautiful. My work was always infused with social, political, sexual, and psychological themes. I made sure my dancers knew exactly how to express the emotion in a scene, otherwise it wouldn’t connect with the audience, which was always my ultimate goal.


    In 1936 I was invited by Hitler to go and represent America at the International Arts Festival, which was organized with the Olympic Games in Berlin. I turned him down, because if I accepted, that meant that I supported his regime, which was not the case at all. That same year I created “Chronicle”, which was sort of my response to the rise of fascism and the “unmatched power of the collective will”.


Question 6
R: What do you consider your greatest accomplishments and what dance methods did you create?


M:
    I started working at the Eastman School of Music in 1925. Rouben Mamoulian and I created a short two-color film called “The Flute of Krishna”, which featured some of the students of Eastman. I left shortly after, and went on to establish the Martha Graham Center of Contemporary Dance in 1926. My first independent concert consisted of 18 trios and solos that I choreographed myself. It took place in Manhattan at the 48th Street Theatre. All of the pieces I showed that night were influenced by Denishawn.


    In 1936, I created a piece called “Chronicle”, which brought more serious issues to the stage. It was influenced by the Wall Street Crash, the Great Depression, and the Spanish Civil War. It focused mainly on isolation and depression. I went on to produce many, many more shows and stories on the stage. However, I never allowed my work to be filmed, because I believe that live performances should only exist as they are experienced. I also developed my own style, called the Graham technique. It is based on “contraction and release” and is designed to make dancers expressive and dramatic. Overall, I would say that my biggest accomplishment is my company, the Martha Graham Dance Company.


Question 7
R: What were the key opportunities you had that created a turning point in your dance career?


M:
    After I performed as the lead in Igor Stravinsky’s premiere of “Rite of Spring” in America, I got the opportunity to tour the United States in the production “Electra”. During my tour, I became especially interested in the American Indians of the Southwest. One of the first products that I made out of this interest was “Primitive Mysteries”.


    My interest in the American past only increased. I created a piece based off the lives of American pioneer women, called “Frontier”. It also inspired my famous “Appalachian Spring”. In 1932, I became the first dance to ever receive a Guggenheim fellowship, which is an award to glorify artistic research and development. I got an opportunity to dance for President Franklin Roosevelt in 1937, becoming the first dancer to dance at the White House. That is still one of the best opportunities I’ve gotten and one of the proudest days of my life.


Question 8
R: Were there any hardships or roadblocks you had to overcome to make it as a dancer?


M:
    After I saw the show Ruth St. Denis perform, I begged my parents to allow me to study dance. They were strong Presbyterians, and told me no. Of course, my parent’s disapproval of my dancing as a child discouraged me. But I was so inspired and moved by dance that I refused give up. When my father died, I basically saw it as an opportunity for me to begin my dream job as a dancer. And when I did start, I hadn’t been dancing my whole life, and there were times when I felt I’d never make it. But I just kept working, and eventually everything came together.


    When I first started choreographing pieces for my company, many of the early critics called my dances “ugly” or “strange”. I guess they just didn’t understand that dance could be more than just tutus and pointe shoes. It was so different from ballet that it just didn’t click with people at first. Finally, they slowly started to realize just how great my work was and respected the time and effort I put into them.


Question 9
R: Do you have any personal stories, or anecdotes, that really illustrate how you became so successful as a dancer?


M:
    When I first opened my company, I really enjoyed having my own students to utilize. In 1929, I produced a dance called “Heretic”, where I danced in all white against a wall of dancers with all black. I worked with music composer Louis Horst up until his death in 1964. Without his music, I surely would have been lost.


    As previously mentioned, when my dances first hit the stage, many people were very taken aback. It was quite different from European ballet, which was graceful and pretty. My dances were powerful and strong. They included movements that were dramatic, such as contracting and falling to the floor. Even though the critics sneered at what I did, I didn’t despair. I knew they all would eventually discover the beauty of a dance that’s not quite as perfect and pretty, but that tells a story.


Question 10
R: How did your work impact the world of art?


M:
    My impact on dance is often compared to that of Pablo Picasso’s on painting. We both introduced a new style to our art form and changed up the “traditional” ways of doing it. Basically everything I did was completely against what female dancers had previously been taught. I made a new technique so complex that it takes a full 10 years to master and gave artists of color a chance, even though they were not regarded as much.


    I have often been recognized as one of the most influential artists of the 20th century. Dance would probably be very different today if it were not for me and many other modern dance pioneers. New styles such as contemporary and lyrical have evolved from that original modern style. Nowadays, modern dance is kind of an oxymoron. It is no longer a new form of dance. Even so, I hope that it will live on, just as ballet has.


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